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Post by Timothy on Jul 19, 2008 20:20:08 GMT -5
I was absolutely blown away by The Dark Knight; props should definitely go to DC's Jack Napier for correctly identifying the overall use of Alan Moore's The Killing Joke in the storyline. If it wasn't for him, I know I wouldn't have enjoyed the film as much as I did So, thanks man The Joker's "magic trick" was by far my favorite part of the film; it's fast, disturbing yet absolutely and disturbingly hilarious.
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Post by Jack Napier on Jul 20, 2008 11:12:13 GMT -5
I was absolutely blown away by The Dark Knight; props should definitely go to DC's Jack Napier for correctly identifying the overall use of Alan Moore's The Killing Joke in the storyline. If it wasn't for him, I know I wouldn't have enjoyed the film as much as I did So, thanks man Wow, I'm VERY glad to hear this and to have been a part of your Dark Knight experience. ;D I'll post my thoughts here....when I see it tomorrow, haha.
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Post by Timothy on Jul 20, 2008 17:49:25 GMT -5
I was absolutely blown away by The Dark Knight; props should definitely go to DC's Jack Napier for correctly identifying the overall use of Alan Moore's The Killing Joke in the storyline. If it wasn't for him, I know I wouldn't have enjoyed the film as much as I did So, thanks man Wow, I'm VERY glad to hear this and to have been a part of your Dark Knight experience. ;D No problem, man! There were some parts that definitely jumped out at me as "Killing Joke" moments, although they were cleverly reinterpreted for The Dark KnightWell, I'll have to spoil the ending for you; Darth Vader is Luke's father. ;D
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Post by Timothy on Jul 21, 2008 13:38:54 GMT -5
"And that was the first time I was ever banned from a theater..."
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Post by Jack Napier on Jul 22, 2008 17:59:27 GMT -5
This blew Batman Begins out of the water and nailed aspects of the characters better than I had imagined!
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Post by Timothy on Jul 22, 2008 18:37:28 GMT -5
This blew Batman Begins out of the water and nailed aspects of the characters better than I had imagined! ;D As much as I loved Batman Begins, I'm going to agree with you. Bruce Wayne grew as a character and, IMO, helped to create one of the best film endings I've ever seen. Half-way through the film, I was really distraught at the idea that James Gordon was dead... When he triumphantly returned, the entire packed theater applauded, laughed and seemed to universally lighten up. Very rarely have I ever witnessed this kind of reception to a film, let alone a Batman one.
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Post by Jack Napier on Jul 22, 2008 20:24:24 GMT -5
My theater applauded after Joker's magic trick. As cool as the bank robbery prologue is, that's really the big grand entrance. And I agree- Bruce in this one really grew into the Batman we know and love.
I felt that Nolan and company read my mind on a few things (hell, maybe they do read the forums!) and improved everything. The interrogation scene, the chase sequence, the third act of Batman fighting the villain to save others, hell even the music...in this film were all better, in my opinion.
For Joker, they took my favorite part of The Killing Joke and made it even better (and fulfilled my prediction, haha). For Two-Face, the origin was different from the comics, yet it was very true to the characters involved, gave a unique spin on it, and fit very well in the context of the film. Perfect.
Christian Bale and Gary Oldman were even better in this one. And, of course, BIG props to Aaron Eckhart and the late Heath Ledger.
My favorite sequence has got to be towards the end when Batman takes out the SWAT team to save innocent lives and then has the final fight with the Joker, whose final speech was so perfect.
If they pushed the envelope this far for The Dark Knight, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE.
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Post by Timothy on Jul 23, 2008 20:18:00 GMT -5
My theater applauded after Joker's magic trick. As cool as the bank robbery prologue is, that's really the big grand entrance. I and others laughed when Joker said something to the effect of, "I'm not crazy" prior to mischievously licking his lips. It takes a mature hero to know when he's not needed (rather than wanted; big difference) and to await his city's call. I was thinking the same thing when I got the one thing I wanted the most; Batman fighting in a nightclub with throbbing techno/trance music Which, IMO, only further enforces my fan-theory that this is truly the Empire Strikes Back of comic films; it improves upon a great premise and raises the stakes for everyone involved. With all due respect to Mr. Moore, I preferred seeing Joker's plan extended to an entire city rather than one man. Just imagine the chaos and destruction you could chaos with a city rather than one man... Same with Batman: The Animated Series' version; it fit the context of the series while being reverent to the original source material. I loved how Nolan, essentially through us a "red herring" in the form of Marroni ;D What I find to be morbidly humorous is the fact that the writer for my college's newspaper (Central Michigan Life) was the only paper I've read thus far that mentioned Ledger's candidacy for an Oscar in the light that he would have won it regardless of his death, rather than turning the article into a "hype machine." If my "Star Wars" analogy comes true, please, Mr. Nolan, don't bring any Ewoks or what-not into the third one...
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Post by Jack Napier on Jul 24, 2008 1:39:44 GMT -5
Okay, so now that I've let the hype subside in me, I think my statement here may be a bit loaded, haha. I'll fork a thread to more discussion on the ending...
That was SO AWESOME.
Agreed. To me, they improved upon The Killing Joke. In that comic, Batman coming to Arkham to talk things through was a bit awkward, but in the film, in the context of Batman finally cornering this guy, it made a lot of sense for him to see how this guy ticked.
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