Jack Napier
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Jan 5, 2006 0:10:05 GMT -5
Post by Jack Napier on Jan 5, 2006 0:10:05 GMT -5
Did anybody see this film?
It's pretty powerful stuff. I won't get too much into it now but it gives the audience a lot to absorb regarding the harsh never-ending cycle of violence.
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arkham16
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Jan 8, 2006 20:32:56 GMT -5
Post by arkham16 on Jan 8, 2006 20:32:56 GMT -5
People i just saw this today and i have got to say...Well actually i don't know how to quote me being speechless. Dr. Crane is right on with his statement above (as is the usual case). If you haven't seen it, GO! GO NOW!...it's amazing. Tho it's pretty intense visually, emotionally so do have caution.
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Timothy
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Jan 8, 2006 20:44:02 GMT -5
Post by Timothy on Jan 8, 2006 20:44:02 GMT -5
People i just saw this today and i have got to say...Well actually i don't know how to quote me being speechless. Dr. Crane is right on with his statement above (as is the usual case). If you haven't seen it, GO! GO NOW!...it's amazing. Tho it's pretty intense visually, emotionally so do have caution. ^ I heard that it was about the athletes from Israel who were murdered, but what happens after that? I'm not trying to downplay what happened to them, I just don't know what happens in the movie...
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Jack Napier
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Jan 8, 2006 21:12:00 GMT -5
Post by Jack Napier on Jan 8, 2006 21:12:00 GMT -5
The film is about what Israel does after the Israeli athletes are murdered in Munich by the Palestinian terrorist group, Black September. The incident itself takes up a good ten minutes in the beginning and then is seen in eery flashbacks throughout.
Eric Bana (in his best role yet, IMO), Daniel Craig (the new James Bond), and Ciaran Hinds (my choice for Boss Maroni in the new Batman sequel) are among the team secretly assigned by the Israeli government (in the form of Geoffrey Rush's character) to take out all known members of Black September that helped in the incident in Munich. It seems a worthy assignment to them. A way to fight for their country. But once they start carrying out their orders, it doesn't turn out to be that way at all.
In a way, it's about how revenge continues the cycle of violence. Are the assassins any better than the members of Black September? Are the Black September members any less human than anyone else? The answers to these speak for themselves in the film.
It's neither pro-Israel or pro-Palestine; it's an illustration on how humanity, in general, is destroying itself from the inside out.
So, um...sound interesting to anyone?
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Timothy
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Jan 8, 2006 21:21:30 GMT -5
Post by Timothy on Jan 8, 2006 21:21:30 GMT -5
In a way, it's about how revenge continues the cycle of violence. Are the assassins any better than the members of Black September? Are the Black September members any less human than anyone else? The answers to these speak for themselves in the film. It's neither pro-Israel or pro-Palestine; it's an illustration on how humanity, in general, is destroying itself from the inside out. ^ Which is why I was, and still am, the current "War on Terror"; by striking out in vengeance with a retaliatory military response (instead of going through the proper diplomatic channels) against those who attacked the United States, there has been an enormous spike in recruitment of regular Iraqi citizens for terrorists ..."An eye for an eye", in the words of the Flash, "leaves everyone blind." Sorry to go slightly off-topic, but it relates to it at the same time...
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Jack Napier
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Jan 8, 2006 21:26:22 GMT -5
Post by Jack Napier on Jan 8, 2006 21:26:22 GMT -5
^Oh, definitely. I don't think the connection is a coincidence. The last shot of the film is of the Twin Towers.
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Timothy
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Jan 8, 2006 21:31:33 GMT -5
Post by Timothy on Jan 8, 2006 21:31:33 GMT -5
^Oh, definitely. I don't think the connection is a coincidence. The last shot of the film is of the Twin Towers. ^ Makes sense to stick it in the last part of the film; that way, he can make a subtle political statment without doing it outright...You can't be too careful with the *"Freedom Party" stalwarts running around the streets if you aren't shouting "Freedom!" or saluting President Featherston all the time... * Read Harry Turtledove's "How Few Remain" where the South won the Civil War...
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Jack Napier
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Jan 8, 2006 21:40:04 GMT -5
Post by Jack Napier on Jan 8, 2006 21:40:04 GMT -5
^ Sounds like an interesting novel. ;D
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arkham16
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Jan 8, 2006 22:08:35 GMT -5
Post by arkham16 on Jan 8, 2006 22:08:35 GMT -5
I think this movie comes out at a great time. It speaks on so many levels and leaves lot to think about.
Sidenote...I cannot get over Bana's performance. His eyes are half of it. He's very convincing and at times just creepy to watch. When i say creepy i mean at how well he just absorbs into the role. He was unbelievable for his believability.
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Jack Napier
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Jan 8, 2006 22:14:13 GMT -5
Post by Jack Napier on Jan 8, 2006 22:14:13 GMT -5
^ Yeah, definitely. He was perfect.
There were several times in which you could just believe in the character as a broken human being. Like *SPOILERS*: - When he breaks into tears upon hearing his daughter's voice on the phone - His horrified look and haunted gasp after the dead guard falls into the swimming pool. I can't get over how completely terrified and guilt-ridden he showed himself to be within such a short amount of time. - His weary look when the two soldiers demand to shake his hand and say that it's an honor for them to meet him. And those are only a few examples.
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